Part Three
Emin Bikliqi: I remember as a kid, they used to say that a rabbit entered Janjevo and exited in Gadime. Did they tell you this?
Anita Susuri: Yes, yes, but you can tell it also, no problem.
Emin Bikliqi: We had a piece of mountain and a vineyard at the entrance of Janejvo. That… that part is called Zhabica, that’s not important. That hill, there are two big hills there. On the right side, we had a mountain and vineyards, and as a kid when I went to the vineyard I would pass by, there was like a ravine. And as a kid I would go near there, it was very deep, I would take a rock and throw it in, and listen to the noise it made. At that time, so approximately in the ‘60s, this happened then. And they used to say, “A rabbit entered that ravine in Janjevo and exited in Gadime.”
Then it turned out to be true in the ‘80s when they discovered Gadime’s cave and the explanation… This is connected to Janjevo. So there was some truth to it, people… so the rabbit went in there because a dog was chasing it, and the rabbit came out in Gadime. Now… but this was verified when they discovered Gadime’s cave, after almost 50 years. So, that’s an interesting moment. Also you have seen that huge hill in the entrance of Janjevo on the left, where they dug the soil in those caves in the Roman times, when the ore was extracted. I don’t know what else is worth mentioning. You can ask, I don’t know.
Anita Susuri: We were talking about Shkolla Normale, were you the only one from Janjevo who continued school? I mean from your generation.
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, yes. There were people who came after me, but they came later, I was the first.
Anita Susuri: Why were you the only one?
Emin Bikliqi: Well, who knows. I can only speak for myself. Education was important to me. So, my uncle worked in Belgrade at that time, the uncle who was in Germany, he came… during World War Two he came here with the Germans and killed Serbs. He went to Gracanica, he was wearing the uniform. They killed him on his way back to Janjevo, we don’t even know where he is. Anyway, this is a story on its own. So he was killed and we don’t know anything about him.
My other uncle, he was a soldier in Belgrade, in the military hospital, and he served as a soldier there. They asked him to stay there, so he worked there for a period of time, then he went to Zagreb. I want to relate this to how much of an impact he had. Anyway, education was important to me, but my uncle was also an influence. He lived in Belgrade, he saw life differently. That’s how it is, right? He supported me. When he would come from Belgrade he would bring me something, “If you learn you can come to Belgrade and wherever you want, you can become a doctor and so on.”
When I enrolled in Normale, I had a Montenegrin teacher, he taught me physics, he asked, “Where are you going to school?” I say, “Normale.” He says, “Normale for you…” he said it in Serbo-Croatian, but I’m not gonna say it in Serbo-Croatian, I’ll translate it into Albanian. He says, “It is like a cat’s cough for you,” he said, “A trade school or…”
Anita Susuri: Easy.
Emin Bikliqi: But I wanted to go to Normale because of the scholarship. At that time the municipality needed educators, teachers and they gave scholarships. So that had an impact on my decision to go to Normale. Maybe it would have been better if I went to trade school, or somewhere else. However, that is done.
Anita Susuri: What was life in Pristina like? What were the conditions here?
Emin Bikliqi: It was good, I lived in a private… I had my scholarship, so I had a modest life. I fulfilled my needs for living and for books and notebooks and for things that were needed.
Anita Susuri: Was there any particular place where students lived?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, in the Normale dormitory. I didn’t live in the dormitory. I could have lived there, but I preferred private housing. I lived in the city, here on Niš Street. Now it probably has a different name, I don’t know. I lived there with a family from Pristina, we were acquaintances. There was only an old woman and an old man. I lived with them and it was good. For four years they considered me their son. I would wake up in the morning to go to school, I would turn on the stove, make tea, when they would wake up the tea would be ready. I would go to school, they almost adopted me. I mean, I had a good time with them, and they had a good time with me. That’s how it was.
Anita Susuri: Did you go out at that time? Did you go out in the city?
Emin Bikliqi: In Pristina?
Anita Susuri: Yes.
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, there were so many lovers and so many eiiii [onomatopoeic].
Anita Susuri: Can you describe that time for us. Describe that time for us.
Emin Bikliqi: What aspect?
Anita Susuri: In any aspect that you want.
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, Pristina was…
Anita Susuri: About going out, about life…
Emin Bikliqi: You would have different opportunities, right? For a better life. Then the contacts with friends. We would go to the cinema at that time, of course. We would go once a week to the cinema. In the beginning we dealt with studies, then we started to like ourselves and like girls and so on. Then we started to fall in love, it was a big deal (laughs).
Anita Susuri: How did you continue after Shkolla Normale, did you immediately go to Sarajevo?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, immediately.
Anita Susuri: Tell us how this changed.
Emin Bikliqi: I was interested in studying physiology and I went to Zagreb… I went there, because my uncle was also there, as I told you. My grades were excellent and so on. They asked, “Do you have a scholarship? Only those who have a scholarship…” because the physiology branch had a limited number of students. That was a condition I did not meet, so me and my friends went to Sarajevo. I went to Sarajevo, I enrolled in the Political Science Faculty, and I finished it.
Anita Susuri: When was the first time you traveled out of Kosovo and what was your impression of that place?
Emin Bikliqi: When we were in elementary school, we went to Ohrid for the first time.
Anita Susuri: From Janjevo?
Emin Bikliqi: They took us to Ohrid from Janjevo.
Anita Susuri: Did the school organize trips like this?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, it was interesting to me. Then we also went to Belgrade, in elementary school, we went there at that time. We visited these two places then, in elementary school. While things were different in Normale.
Anita Susuri: In elementary school in Janjevo, did everyone go on these trips, or did only particular people go?
Emin Bikliqi: Well, no, almost everybody went on these trips. Trips to Ohrid, to Belgrade, in Kosovo, to Pristina. Pristina was very near, there were no problems.
Anita Susuri: What about your studies?
Emin Bikliqi: The period during my studies was a little intensive. It was intensive because I wanted to finish it as soon as possible, also students with excellent grades got to enter the exams without going to lectures. So I finished the exams one after one, so I finished university early. So, I tried to finish it as soon as possible because of my family’s needs, but also for Kosovo’s needs for teachers and what do I know, and so on.
Anita Susuri: You started a family after your studies, right?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes.
Anita Susuri: Much time after your studies?
Emin Bikliqi: I was hired by the Provincial Committee of the Communist League and after a year I went to Prizren. It was the school of reserve officers, that’s how it was. Every municipality had a few. We finished military service but also the school of reserve officers. I finished it then I continued work at the Provincial Committee and… so I started working in ‘72, I worked in ‘73, in ‘74 I went into the military. The moment I came back from the military I got married.
Anita Susuri: How did you meet your wife?
Emin Bikliqi: Different connections, different connections. I moved around a lot and… now I don’t know, it’s not a shame, they say people have one life, but more than one love, only one life. But this is the love that turned into marriage. I had different relationships and dates. At that time we used to go out with guarantees. Families, the person and so on. So everything was a factor. My wife is from Gjilan. Don’t ask me too much because if someone reads it, or if my wife sees it we will have trouble in our old age (laughs). You shouldn’t tell everything.
Anita Susuri: How did your profession develop after?
Emin Bikliqi: I didn’t have much luck in my professional development, in short, I have worked for others more than I have worked for myself, in comparison to my friends. So, I had predispositions for science. I came here, I had seven sisters and I worked for their education to help my father, so I got employed at the Provincial Committee. I worked there for others. I would write their speeches, reports, analyses. These kinds of things. I didn’t know I should do things for my own professional growth. Then the troubles we had in ‘81, political problems, the Provincial Committee was the epicenter. They would tell me to do this, do that, they invited me to Belgrade to continue with my studies, but then I had children, responsibilities, that’s how life is. In other words, I didn’t work for myself.
In addition to working I also lectured at the Political School of the League of Communists as it was called, you don’t know this. It was for workers, regardless of their education, even those with bachelor’s degrees, workers and so on came to the Political School. The committees of municipalities delegated people there, no payment necessary, and I was one of the lecturers. In addition to the job I had, I also lectured at the Political School until the end. From beginning to end. I got paid for it.
Anita Susuri: Do you have any memories of the time when you worked before the ‘80s?
Emin Bikliqi: Before the ‘80s?
Anita Susuri: Yes.
Emin Bikliqi: I have good memories. At that time Kosovo burst in every aspect of development, in economical, political, cultural, civilizational development and so on. That’s when we started, Kosovo, Albanians. Otherwise, after the ‘80s there were other trends.
Anita Susuri: What was your role during the demonstrations of ‘81, did you take part in the demonstration or were you more neutral?
Emin Bikliqi: No, no. I did not take part [in the demonstration], we didn’t dare do it, because we could have lost our jobs or even gone to prison. Because I worked in a sensitive institution, it gave direction… not the Provincial Committee but based on the decisions of the Party’s Central Committee in Belgrade, they gave the orders in republics, in provinces. So, we didn’t dare do it, we had to be careful. There’s one interesting moment… there are a lot of moments.
So, that time was a time of development and spiritual satisfaction for Albanians with perspective at every step. You enrolled in school, you had maximum job opportunities, you worked, you registered there and you would know your place and when you could get an apartment. So, it was an advanced democracy. Democracies are different and bourgeois democracy is, we can take the democracies of previous societies. Each period had their own democracies. But I’m talking about Kardelj and Tito, in the ‘70s, ‘80s, this was an advanced democracy, we called socialist democracy. Why? Because people… people in general in Kosovo decided on their own fate.
So you were employed, you voted, discussed and proposed among your colleagues. You talked about the salary, living conditions, apartments, holidays. Everyone took part and the lists were formed. You were a subject, that’s what we call it in sociology, you were a subject not an object. Now, in comparison to that time, we are objects. You understand the best {shows with his hands} but you probably know what being a subject or object means. We are a political subject for four years, or before the four years when we hold the elections and you go vote, nothing more. Who asks…. Who asks me. That’s why we are in this condition, because we’re not subjects.
So, those functions alienated us. Someone else… we trusted them. And now you can see how we trusted them, and what they are doing to us. This was not possible at that time, in Kardelj’s time. We decided. I want to say that it was a period of perspective. People were pleased. You were employed, you knew you were going to get an apartment, create a family, and you will be happy. Today, there’s wealth… for some people, right? They get that wealth within a night, or a year, who knows how they do it, honorably or not, they’re not all the same. You are a witness, there’s nothing I can tell you about the present. And all of these were alienated. What are they saying about the assembly? I don’t want to repeat the parliamentarian’s opinions. What is this assembly? Who are these people? I don’t want to discuss that topic.
In other words, I want to say that in comparison to that time, we were subjects and we were happy. Today even the people who have millions aren’t happy, because I don’t know how they earned them. Right? You can’t be satisfied. There are some cases where people are satisfied with other people’s suffering and so on. But I mean at that time we were satisfied. And when I talk to young people like you about these things and other things like this, they say, “Is it possible that it was like that?” But we are witnesses, of course it is possible.
To my children and you this sounds like a fairytale, right? Like a story you think it may have happened, but we experienced it, we know. Maybe I talked a lot about it but since you asked me to compare that time and now, that time was a period of perspective. I used to say it often, when we were in America, we had a passport that we could travel everywhere in the world with. What about today? For how many years…
Anita Susuri: Did you travel?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes.
Anita Susuri: Where did you travel to, and what did you like the most?
Emin Bikliqi: I went everywhere. In ‘73 I went to Berlin, I was a youth activist at that time and I was in the political youth delegation of Yugoslavia. We traveled by car. Three or four delegates from the republics, also from Kosovo, stayed in Berlin for fifteen days, at the International Youth Festival. So, youth from all over the world, except for Albania which didn’t participate at that time. Every other country participated. I was in that delegation with Ukshin Hoti, Agim Zatriqi. You may not know Agim, he was the television director, it’s not important. You know Ukshin. I slept in the same room as Ukshin Hoti, and so on.
So, I was in that delegation, it was official work. I got paid for it. I traveled, I created contacts with youth all over the world, and so on. Then, privately, I traveled to Romania, Bulgaria and Greece, we used to go there just for a coffee on the weekend, so to say. Except Albania, we couldn’t go there. Especially to Turkey. I went to Turkey for the first time as a student in the ‘70s, I went to Syria, to Damascus, because I had a friend that I met in Sarajevo, Arabian.
We met, we drank tea and coffee and hung out. He says, “Do you want to come to Syria?” “Yes.” And I
go to Syria, in Damascus as a guest. From there, “Do you wanna go to Lebanon?” “Let’s go.” We went to Lebanon by taxi, in Beirut. At that time Beirut was called East Paris. Then you know about wars, we’re not talking about that. I mean, I traveled to these places. Especially Yugoslavia. At that time, I traveled to all the beautiful and important places.
Anita Susuri: How long did you work there in the position you had?
Emin Bikliqi: I didn’t have a position there, I was a professional associate.
Anita Susuri: I mean in that position?
Emin Bikliqi: Well until… As long as the Provincial Committee existed. Until ‘89. Then I traded and I worked whatever I could. I worked all kinds of jobs.
Anita Susuri: Was that a hard period for you?
Emin Bikliqi: That period? It was very, very hard…
Anita Susuri: Can you describe it?
Emin Bikliqi: A period of many troubles, many troubles. All kinds… all kinds of troubles. Existential, political, will they imprison me, will they kill me, and so on. And in this period, so ‘90 to ‘89…. So in ‘89 my second son was an English student in Pristina, and he and his friends decided to go to war when Prekaz was first attacked. He went there when that happened, they were wearing their uniforms ready for war and so on. After three or four months, they got caught like rabbits with Iljaz Kodra, he was their commander. And they take them to prison in Mitrovica. He was there until June 10, when the Serbian military and police withdrew. They took them from the prison in Mitrovica and sent them to Požarevac.
So, he was in prison for three years, he was sentenced to seven years for irredentism and for terrorism. There are pictures of the boys in newspapers. Newspapers all over Belgrade wrote about these boys. They used all kinds of expressions, terrorists and so on. It was a very hard period of time for me. It was hard because we didn’t know… first, when he went to Prekaz, we watched the news, in the evening they would announce who was killed, who was massacred. We would listen carefully in case they said something about our son, my son, or his friends. It was very hard. Then when they imprisoned them, that… it was hard, it was hard.
Anita Susuri: Were you in contact with him while he was in prison?
Emin Bikliqi: Only through the lawyer. To tell you the truth, some lawyers were very rude. I don’t want to mention them by their names, but they took our money on the promise of setting him free, a typical lawyer. He was a well-known lawyer… I remember it clear as day, we were waiting there with the lawyer… we went with the lawyer, he would go in and then tell us in what condition our son is. One of them wanted to make a deal, “I want ten thousand euros beforehand,” I don’t want to mention his name, the late lawyer, he was well known. I had a very bad impression of him. Anyway, that time has passed. They took them to Požarevac, they maltreated them, when the prison burned down, they were saved by seconds. All these moments traumatized me and my family. It was as hard as death, like this.
Anita Susuri: How are you tied to Janjevo? Do you go there often?
Emin Bikliqi: My house is in Janjevo. But I wasn’t born there, because my father built it in the ‘70s. But we had a yard and vineyard there, then my father built the house there. My parents have died, my sisters have gotten married. I live in Pristina, the house is there with all the means needed to live in it. Water connection, phone, everything. I go there time after time, more often during the summer. As you saw, I go out to drink coffee, I meet my cousins, my friends. Sometimes I work in the vineyard or in the yard, and so on. It seems interesting now that I’m retired.
Anita Susuri: Were you present when Croats started leaving [Janjevo]?
Emin Bikliqi: No, I wasn’t there.
Anita Susuri: During the 80s.
Emin Bikliqi: I wasn’t. I am mentioning ‘81, maybe this is not convenient, talking about ‘81, then the ‘70s, but I have a very bitter experience when the demonstrations happened. They had appointed me… I was a collaborator in the Provincial Committee… I went to the Municipality of Lipjan to discuss these developments with young people and so on. And I went to a village where my [maternal] uncle lived, it’s called Akllap, I don’t know if you know it? Near Janjevo, doesn’t matter.
My uncle lived there, and I went there, there was a meeting where the current political developments were explained and so on. They said, “They are asking for you…” there were young people there, I remember it, “You should speak as a sociologist, what do you think about it.” They were comfortable with me, as I was with them. I was asked all kinds of questions, and I was talking about the sociological aspect of society, the development of society, the contradictions, the problems, the society moving forward, how it can be left behind, the perspectives of development, globalization.
At that time I was talking about these things. They were talking about borders and so on, future borders… they were interested in the Republic of Kosovo. “Borders will change there in the future…” This and that. “Will Kosovo be a republic?” History moved forward, developments moved forward. They listened to me. There was someone… today they say some people got paid to spy, and others did it for free. There was someone there and they asked about the Republic of Kosovo and so on.
I did not mention it. “Society has its own development laws.” I say that, and so on. But I told them that every issue has its development when the time comes, I did not say anything about the republic. I finish the meeting and the next day I get a call from Lipjan’s Internal Affairs, “Will you come to drink a coffee?” I said, “What happened?” The Serbians who were officials there told me… we met through the Provincial Committee, we had contacts, meetings. “Did you tell them that Kosovo will become a republic?” I said, “I never mentioned the Kosovo republic.” “You said it.” “I didn’t say it.”
The Head of the Party Committee was there in the meeting, he was… Hasan Lekiqi from Gadime, he is still alive, he supported me. He said, “They misunderstood Emin. I know what he said there.” This and that and he helped me. Otherwise, I would have gone to prison, I would have lost my job and everything. A very bitter experience. So, there weren’t any Serbs there, they were all Albanian. But someone worked without even getting paid, and they almost ruined my life. After that I was very careful.
Anita Susuri: After… you said you weren’t present when the Croats left.
Emin Bikliqi: No.
Anita Susuri: Did you notice the difference?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, yes. The week that happened… they left within a week. They were so scared, they took their main things, valuable things, and they put a lock in their houses, as you have seen them. To this day they’re destroyed, half destroyed, ruins, zombies. It’s very hard, very hard. Then when I went there, I noticed immediately. The çarshi was emptied out, it wasn’t as lively as it used to be, there wasn’t the life we were used to in Janjevo.
Officials of Kosovo went to Janjevo to drink coffee or eat breakfast or dinner there. While today, it is like Nastradin said, “Neither town nor village.” It is left nowhere. So, if there’s something left… not if there is something left, but if there is any place that has gotten worse, it’s Janjevo. It could even keep the level… it almost sunk. It’s sad. It should be sad for other people, it’s sad for us. A place where I was born and spent a good part of my life.
Anita Susuri: Janjevo is known as a place where there used to be a lot of cafés and nightlife. Were you part of that?
Emin Bikliqi: No, not much. I didn’t have time to tell you the truth, I wasn’t one of them. I told you, I worked in an institution where I was careful about my behavior, my morals, about everything, and at that time we had huge responsibilities. We had party responsibilities, various responsibilities. I mean, you didn’t dare do whatever you wanted and so on. I was disciplined. I participated in activities related to the work of the institution I worked for, we worked all day. We worked for the good of the country, during the time we were there, as I said Kosovo’s America. We held meetings, we fought for the rights of Albanians in education, emancipation and so on. For many things, it was the party’s program that gave nations the opportunity, especially the opportunities for a faster, more genuine and better development.
Anita Susuri: During that time…
Emin Bikliqi: And I was in service of that, both myself and my needs for professional development were given in those minimal circumstances. I committed my whole being to society development. We gave the democratic society what it deserved, our aim was independence and so on. But, the way we lived as a society, we generally had a good life. At that time, most people were employed, very rarely were there people who were unemployed. People had the opportunity to go to Germany and work, if they didn’t find a job… at some point they used to give money, the employed people in Germany and France would corrupt people to work here. We had good salaries. Around one thousand and 500 marks, two thousand marks, one thousand marks, at that time marks had a very high value. So, all of that was… what we did for society. I also sacrificed myself, instead of getting a master’s degree and a Ph.D… I could not commit to my professional development, you asked me earlier, I answered twice.
Anita Susuri: What was the period of war in Kosovo like for you?
Emin Bikliqi: Horrible, horrible because I… Our son was in Mitrovica, so where would we go? You aren’t parents [addresses the interviewer] you’re young, you don’t know what being a parent is like. For example, during the bombing, the war, we couldn’t leave our child in prison and go to Macedonia or Albania or… I told my wife, because we have two sons, “You go, I’ll stay, maybe they let him go,” you know, I would dream about it. Maybe they let him go, so where would our son go, “I’ll stay.” “Either we all stay, or…” So we stayed, it was horrible. They came to kill us, or massacre us so many times. I don’t know if they knew about our son. I live on the fourth floor, there were 20 policemen on the first floor. Someone put their apartment up for rent, so they stayed there all night drinking and so on, they would come to our door and so on. I don’t know if they knew about our son.
They would come with masks. I knew their mentality. They would come with masks, “Come get a coffee. I’ll pour some raki for you.” I had raki, now the danger… I would open the raki to please them, so they wouldn’t bother us. They liked drinking raki, so it was okay. Once they took our oldest son, because the younger one was a kid, and they maltreated him to find out if we had weapons. There were all kinds of moments that almost… we have trauma, when it was over, everyone was asking, “How are you?” “We don’t know if we’re okay.” After all those things.
Then they sent them to Serbia, and like this, just waiting. My wife would go… only women were allowed to visit them. Taxis would come from Presevo and would send them to Požarevac within the say, they would come to get them early in the morning. We paid 200 marks to our brothers from Presevo. In the midst of all that anxiety and trouble, but for us it was important to see our child. We gave 200 marks for transport to Požarevac and we came back. They would earn 800 marks in a day. I hope no one needs anyone else the way we need them.
Anita Susuri: How did you experience Liberation Day?
Emin Bikliqi: Aiii…
Anita Susuri: Do you remember that day?
Emin Bikliqi: Of course I do, of course I remember, it was a miracle, a miracle. Yes, it was a miracle, as they say, we were brokenhearted that we didn’t have our son, but we still had hope, you know? We had high hopes that they would be freed, then later they were pardoned. He was sentenced to seven years. Then they pardoned them and only were imprisoned for three years. He came back healthy and well. Waiting in Merdare and (cries)…
Anita Susuri: How did you wait for him?
Emin Bikliqi: (cries) The parental motive is… you learned this in school, it’s the strongest motive in the world. You know the experiments in psychology that were done with mice. Mice always sacrifice for their offspring. They went through fire, now imagine what it’s like for people. Since there is even a higher consciousness level or what do I know.
Anita Susuri: How many children do you have?
Emin Bikliqi: Three sons.
Anita Susuri: Did they go to school, what do they do?
Emin Bikliqi: Yes, yes. The oldest, Albion, is in IT, the middle one, Artani, the one who was in prison, had a master’s in English language, and the youngest, Yllori, is an English language professor.
Anita Susuri: What was your life like after the war?
Emin Bikliqi: Like this, with troubles, troubles with employment, with… I couldn’t find a job, I couldn’t find a job. Employment happened with connections, and I dealt with trading before and later. And at some point I decided… there was an opportunity to apply as a translator at the Supreme Court, and I went there and applied. I can speak both languages, I was very good at both of them, I had no competition. I get accepted. And out of curiosity I also applied where I used to work before, and retired. But, when my son was released from prison, he finished university…
Anita Susuri: After the war?
Emin Bikliqi: After the war he finished university, and he took part in the war and so on. He applied and they didn’t accept him anywhere. In other words, so, it didn’t matter… then he got a job in Oxford. You know Oxford, a private institution for foreign languages. This is what the institutions did for people who fought in the war, while when it comes to their brothers and cousins, it’s another thing, they did everything for them.
Anita Susuri: Now… sorry for interrupting you.
Emin Bikliqi: Yes.
Anita Susuri: What do you do now?
Emin Bikliqi: Me?
Anita Susuri: How do you spend time?
Emin Bikliqi: I have a good way of spending time. I translate. I’m not a translator, but I translate. I think I translate well. I collaborate with some companies, but not very often. Sometimes people who know I’m a licensed translator bring something to translate, and so on. I read as much as I can. I go to Germia and drink coffee with friends, usually at Freskia. I go to Janjevo, I do physical activities like viticulture…
Anita Susuri: I wanted to ask you one more thing about Janjevo, I heard there were a lot of fruits and vegetables in Janjevo…
Emin Bikliqi: True. Not vegetables, but there were a lot of fruits. Something else… Now that you asked me, I remembered. The hills in Janjevo that now look all empty, at that time when the Croats were here, they were like parks with flowers. The vineyards all worked well, they had grapes and other fruits. They went all over Yugoslavia and brought all kinds of fruits, all kinds of fruits that other people around us could only dream about.
I don’t know about others. The Municipality of Lipjan didn’t have any fruits, they came here for grapes, pears, peaches, cherries, plums, and so on. So Croats brought them there. Those vineyards were amazing, but something even more amazing was when the grapes were collected, I mean for Janjevo. Not for Albanians and Turks, but for Croats, they had more vineyards then we did. Because there were 80 percent Croats, and we were 20 percent. Beautiful girls would collect the grapes and they would sing Dalmatian songs.
You can imagine it. And those hills of Janjevo, they would sing in one hill, and the voice would travel almost all over Janjevo. Wonderful, for me it was wonderful. I remember that. And something I say to my Croat friends, I say, “Do you remember that time?” And those beautiful girls would come back home, or to çarshi with baskets of grapes or other fruits. I was wonderful, wonderful. My [maternal] uncles and aunts lived in Banulla, do you know Banulla? A village.
Anita Susuri: Yes.
Emin Bikliqi: They only had berries in their yard. And in the time of cherries and grapes they would come here. And I remember, “Aunt, why don’t you plant peaches and apples?” “They don’t ripen there.” Imagine what kind of information they had, they didn’t have information. Life is information. Life is information. They didn’t have the information that peaches and grapes ripen in Banulla, Lipjan and anywhere, right?
If you go to Banulla today it’s wonderful, they have all kinds of fruit. But, I’m going back, Croats opened our eyes, then Lipjan and Banulla and so on opened their eyes. There’s an interesting expression, for you and for the opinion, information is the key to success. Even today, if you have information you’re successful, if you don’t have information, you don’t have anything. And at that time they didn’t have the information that peaches and grapes can be planted in flat ground, not just in hills.
Anita Susuri: Do you have anything to add in case you forgot to say something?
Emin Bikliqi: I do. But now it depends what. There probably are some other moments, but these are more dominating, because one can’t say everything. Those you can only say in writing, when you sit and write them down one by one. It’s hard to include everything in one interview.
Anita Susuri: Okay, thank you very much.
Emin Bikliqi: You’re welcome.