Part Two
Anita Susuri: Did you start as a professor at the faculty after graduating, or?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, after graduating from the faculty.
Anita Susuri: So, after ‘91.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No, no.
Anita Susuri: After ‘75.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: I finished the faculty and started working. Because you cannot work at the faculty without graduating, but the master’s degree and doctorate were part of the qualifications needed for the faculty. A university degree alone was not enough. Five or six months after I defended my doctorate, we were dismissed from work. I defended my doctorate in March, that is exactly when it was. By September, we no longer had work; they cut us off in June.
Anita Susuri: In ‘91?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In ‘91.
Anita Susuri: I would like to go back to ‘81 for a moment.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: So, there was ‘81, and then in ‘85 something was set up. You could say that by ‘85 we were almost dismissed from work. In ‘81 there were large demonstrations. The demonstrations were broken up very brutally. Then differentiation began immediately. That is what it was called. There were three women working at the faculty: Afërdita Nura, Luljeta Pula, and me. At that time, we were among the youngest, or the youngest. The students looked to us. We were so closely connected to the students that we did not understand the danger. Neither they nor we did.
After the demonstrations, which as I said were crushed brutally, with a great deal of violence, many students were taken to the hospital. They were beaten so badly, I mean, force was used against them to the point that they ended up in the hospital. Soon after that came differentiation, to see whether we approved of it or not. The three of us were the first to go through this. They came to the committee, as they used to do at the time. I remember they sat down, and now supposedly we were discussing how, whether we approved of the violence. We did not approve of the violence, and we stood up; all three of us were outspoken. Maybe one or two of the men here and there, I don’t know. The next day, the Serbian newspapers wrote as much as they could. I remember the headline: “Three female professors in the positions of Albanian nationalism and irredentism.” So, “Three female professors,” I don’t know if you understand Serbian?
Anita Susuri: Yes.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: “In the positions,” and that is where the campaign against us began. Still, they did not remove us the way they removed others. But the pressure became increasingly harsh after ‘81. All of my colleagues and I taught both in Albanian and Serbian wherever that was possible. After ‘81, decisions were issued, or whatever they were called, stating that Albanians were not allowed to teach Serbian-language classes. Only Albanian ones. We could no longer teach Serbian students. They brought in some assistants. I had a Serbian colleague as my assistant, with whom I had a proper working relationship, and they gave the lectures to her. She taught in Serbian. She took all the instructions she needed for the lectures from me, as well as the books I used. She was very correct. I did not have a problem. Still, that is where the campaign began.
Anita Susuri: You also told me about a Montenegrin student you had?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes. At that time, when I was also teaching in Serbian, I had students, as I told you, from all over Yugoslavia there at the faculty. My subject was very specific: electrochemistry. The theory and practice of electrochemistry. The practical part involved methods for producing different metals. One method that was very specific was the production of aluminum, which is still very important today. All metals. The method for producing aluminum is very specific. Aluminum was not produced in Kosovo because we did not have aluminum. The raw material extracted from Trepça did not include anything for aluminum. The only factory at that time, among those our students had access to, was in Podgorica. Aluminum was produced in Podgorica using that method, the one I lectured on, which was part of my subject.
Precisely because I had a student from Podgorica in the Serbian-language group, she decided to take that as the topic of her diploma thesis. At that time, people usually considered where they were taking the topic from, so they could do the practical part in the factory. She was from Podgorica and wanted to take that thesis topic so she could work on it there. There was nothing wrong with that. Around that time, I got married and gave birth. Maternity leave then lasted nine months. In the meantime, the deadline came for her diploma defense. What could I do? I was on leave. In my place, my colleague, my husband, became a member of that committee because he said, “She did not want to change.” They must have asked her, of course. It was very… she was the only one from the Serbian-language group who did her diploma thesis with me. And she defended it, she completed it.
Anita Susuri: And were you colleagues with your husband?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Colleagues.
Anita Susuri: Is that how you met?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes. We met in secondary school.
Anita Susuri: You said that you worked until ‘91, and then in September they were removed…
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, they removed us in June. In September, it became final. There was the strike in September.
Anita Susuri: I want to go back and ask you about the Miners’ Strike, which you mentioned briefly. What was the situation like during that time?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: The Miners’ Strike was a consequence of what happened after ‘81. Serbia began making constitutional changes to our constitution, the well-known Constitution of 1974, through which we had gained those rights. But there was still a connection to Serbia, because Kosovo was supposedly a province of the Republic of Serbia. Serbia saw that we had begun to develop as a people. Immediately after ‘81, after Tito’s death, the degradation began. It finally started with the constitutional changes, and the Miners’ Strike was a protest against those constitutional changes. That was it. Then a very large-scale process of differentiation began.
Anita Susuri: Then, in 1991, after you were removed from work, how did the organizing continue?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In 1991, before I was removed from work, the organizing of the population began. The LDKwas formed. Within the LDK, there was also the LDK Women’s Forum. These were formed in different cities, both for the LDK and for the forum. I was the chair of the LDK Women’s Forum, the branch in Mitrovica. Then the first electoral assembly was organized soon after, and I took part in that LDK assembly. There, a central council, as it was called, was elected. It was done through voting, in a democratic way, one could say. I was elected a member of the central council. From there, I was elected chair of the forum and continued as chair of the Women’s Forum.
Anita Susuri: What was your role? What did you do?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: We did not have any major role. Still, there was a purpose. The purpose was for women to have their own organization as well. So we did what we could. I cannot say that, but always within the LDK. A better form of organizing.
Anita Susuri: How difficult was it to hold meetings like that?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: We met once a week, just like the LDK. Once a week, all the branches. But there were also some activities on different days, on days related to Kosovo. It was not easy to go to different branches at that time. Still, we tried not to have meetings with too many people. The leadership had eleven members then, I think. We tried not to organize large gatherings, because we were not exactly spared when it came to larger aims. Whenever we organized large gatherings, the police would immediately be alerted.
Anita Susuri: Did the police come inside the meetings?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: When the longer meetings began, those were larger gatherings then. But, as I said, we kept the meetings with the branches smaller. But on the way, for example, when we went to Peja or Gjakova sometimes, the police would stop us briefly. But we managed… we did not have too many problems.
Anita Susuri: In meetings of the Women’s Forum, for example, at that time, since it was still the beginning of the 1990s, were any decisions made about what to work on, or how to work, or how to organize the forum?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Certainly, yes. When we were formed as a forum, we were, let’s say, a branch, part of the LDK. In those meetings that we held once a week with President Rugova, or when he was not there, Agani led them. We received advice on how we should work, what we should work on. It often happened that we were given certain tasks there, which the women carried out honorably.
Anita Susuri: What kind of tasks, for example? Could you tell us?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: For example, when the schools were closed, the children were left outside school buildings. We had to concern ourselves with what to do about the children. Until the private schools were organized, as they were called, in houses. Until then, we as mothers had to take care of the children, that was it. Everyone in her own way.
Anita Susuri: Were you part of the organizing when the house-schools were set up?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Well, I was not directly involved, let’s say, but at first they tried to obstruct it. Two or three teachers were killed, they killed them. The first school that was set up, the first house that was opened. I remember that we went there with Agani. It was somewhere in Dukagjin, I don’t remember which village, where they had made the house available, and they killed them immediately. The owner and two or three others, the teachers.
Anita Susuri: Was it the police who killed them?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: The police, yes.
Anita Susuri: You do not remember who they were?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No, no. Their names must be somewhere, certainly. But I know that those were among the first killings, right away. Because they tried to stop the momentum. They could not stop parallel education. There were some talks, supposedly, about going back to the schools… but without success. There was also an initiative at the faculties, at one point, to hold talks and try to return. I remember that we went in Mitrovica. The former leadership, as it was called, together with Emin Dushi, I think, or I do not know who else was there. But without success. Without success. We knew it was only a formality. But it was so they could not say that we had not held talks. That is how it was.
Anita Susuri: Did they refuse you directly?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Well, he listened to us, in a somewhat forceful way. He listened to us, but the decision came from above. “There is nothing,” he said, and nothing happened. Then we held some lectures in different spaces like that.
Anita Susuri: Were you also involved as a professor in the house-schools?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, yes.
Anita Susuri: In which places were you?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: We were first in an eight-year school on the outskirts of Mitrovica. Then we taught there the whole time, until they removed us.
Anita Susuri: Do you remember the name of that school?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No, I do not remember what the school was called, but it was somewhere on the outskirts. An eight-year village school.
Anita Susuri: So the faculty lectures were held there?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, there.
Anita Susuri: At the same time, surely, the primary school students also attended classes there.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Certainly. Later, they were more liberal; they left the children alone.
Anita Susuri: And were you ever in private homes like that?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No, not me.
Anita Susuri: And the faculty…
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Later, we made an effort for the faculty to move to Prishtina. The rectorate was set up in a private house in Velania. Across from it, we taught there for about a year, let’s say. Yes, yes. Then, no. We could not make the decision for the faculty to move to Prishtina, so we returned to Mitrovica again.
Anita Susuri: And here in Prishtina, in that house, what was it like? Were there proper conditions? What were the conditions like?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Only teaching; there were no laboratories. Our faculty cannot function without equipment. But I taught there. Before that, before that situation, I had gone to Germany and came back to teach. Then we taught for one year in Velania, that much.
Anita Susuri: Which year was this?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In ‘95.
Anita Susuri: Were there still many students who were interested?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, but not that many. Not like we had in Mitrovica. The road was very long, and many were in prison. There were many students who took part in the demonstrations, many. They either fled or were in prison when they were caught.
Anita Susuri: But there were also those in ‘89, ‘90, ‘97.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: That is when it began. ‘81 was no longer anything.
Anita Susuri: Do you remember, for example, what kind of atmosphere prevailed despite everything? What was the students’ enthusiasm like? Surely it must have taken a great deal of will to study under such conditions.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, the enthusiasm was very good, before ‘81. It was a new faculty, and at first, in the first generation, we were 20 or 30 students, but then the number kept growing.
Anita Susuri: I mean in the 1990s.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In the 1990s, no, then the students began to get involved in other work as well, because they were the young people leading the movement. Interest kept declining. Many students came after the 1990s and continued the faculty, because they had been left halfway through. As for enrolling, there were more or less a few.
Anita Susuri: What else do you remember from the activities of the 1990s that you think is important?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: The reconciliation of blood feuds.
Anita Susuri: Did you take part?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, of course. As chair of the Mitrovica branch of the forum, I was also a member of the LDK branch in Mitrovica. When… it was mainly our students who were involved in the movement, together with the chairs of the LDK branches. Wherever the chair went, they would call me as well, for the reconciliation of blood feuds. I remember how many times we went to different villages for reconciliations.
Anita Susuri: Could you describe to us how these meetings and gatherings went, and whether there was any particular case that perhaps moved you?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Certainly, every process had its difficulties, and in some places it went more easily. It depended on the case. For example, Latif Berisha was the chair of the branch in Mitrovica. He developed a strategy similar to Anton Çetta’s: to speak very slowly and calmly, in a soothing way, to see whether reconciliation could be reached. The way he would open the conversation was, “We need to come together, to be united.” There were cases where we achieved it more easily, but the more difficult cases were the ones Anton Çetta took part in. Those were more… our cases were easier. People reconciled. They did reconcile; several reconciliations were achieved.
Anita Susuri: What were the cases, perhaps, if you remember? Why did most of those killings happen?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: The killings were of many different kinds. Because it happened… I do not remember the details.
Anita Susuri: I think you went to Germany in 1996?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In ‘92.
Anita Susuri: In ‘93?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In ‘92.
Anita Susuri: Then you returned?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Then I returned.
Anita Susuri: Could you tell me about your work in Germany?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: In Germany, we went to a university that was known for certain fields, as is the case everywhere, similar to our faculty. It was an academy known around the world, 800 years old. There, besides the fact that my colleague and husband was completing his doctorate and doing research, I completed several specializations in the field of corrosion. Because every metal undergoes corrosion. I completed that specialization. It lasted quite a long time. I wrote the textbook on corrosion there.
Anita Susuri: I know you told me that you also served as an interpreter for refugees?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: At the time when I was in Germany, when the war began, I remember that after a while they called me to go and interpret for the women who were arriving. I remember one case from the village of Poklek, in the municipality of Drenas, I think. Two sisters. The older sister was around 50, and the other one was 25. They could not speak, so they asked for a woman to help them. They were trembling. What had been done to them, how they had managed to get out, I do not know. But I remember that that case shook us deeply.
Anita Susuri: You said you returned in ‘96, but then again…
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, I went back there again, because I had left my specialization unfinished. I continued it. In 2000, I returned for good.
Anita Susuri: And during the war, were you in contact with your family here?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Always, always. It was very bad. I had one contact; telephones were rare then. There were no mobile phones at first. I had telephone contact with my brother, and I would wait for morning to come so I could speak to him. Whatever had happened during the whole day, I would call him again the next day. I had my entire family here. My father, my mother, my brothers, my sisters, my nephews and nieces. Everyone was here.
Anita Susuri: Did they stay in Mitrovica, or did they leave?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: At that time, they left a little at the very last moment, but they all came back again. None of them are abroad.
Anita Susuri: You said that you returned in 2000 and then had a very important role.
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: I returned in 2000, and first my colleague and husband and I came back with a multi-year project, a very large project. We worked on it a lot before coming back. Through that project, we supplied the laboratories, which was very necessary, and we sent around 200 students to that faculty where we had been, so they could work on their diploma theses, master’s theses, and doctoral dissertations.
Anita Susuri: Which faculty was it? Do you perhaps remember the name?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: It was the Freiberg Academy.
Anita Susuri: Were you able to carry it out?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: We came with the project very, very quickly, before the war had fully ended. People were, let’s say, not in a good state. Some had lost family members, some… people were under all kinds of stress. Like in wartime. It was not exactly easy to push through with a project like that. First of all, it was difficult to find a building, because we, as a faculty, had no premises. After the war, our faculty building had been occupied. It was not a very large building to begin with. We were left without premises. The equipment, which the Germans brought very quickly, was not a problem; they had the equipment ready. Only the procedures had to be completed.
By the time they brought it, we had not managed to solve the question of where to put it. We held some talks at the Faculty of Engineering in Prishtina. In the end, we sent it to the Faculty of Philosophy, which is central. From there, it went to the Faculty of Engineering. We had many difficulties, many. We tried to do something. Still, because of these kinds of difficulties, the project could not be carried out one hundred percent. Their idea in giving us the project was to create a central laboratory that would serve as a laboratory for all the regions. That was their idea. We were not able to do it that way. We divided the laboratory. One part was placed here at the Faculty of Engineering. Then Trepça gave us a building, and another part was placed there. So that idea was not realized, but many students went and completed their diploma theses there, many of them. Around 200 to 300 people.
Anita Susuri: Did you work a lot after the war?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes. For seven years… I worked until then.
Anita Susuri: After retiring, did you continue with any activities?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No. I was chair of the board of a center for the rehabilitation of survivors of violence called KRCT. That is where I was involved. I continued that activity until about a year ago.
Anita Susuri: Was it difficult work?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: No. I was only on the board. We met once every six months. But I did take part in activities several times. It was not difficult work.
Anita Susuri: Ms. Milajete, would you like to add anything else, in case I have forgotten to mention something?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: During my work at the faculty, I had a scholarship, so I went to America twice. The first time was in 2003, through something called the Hope Fellowship. Women leaders, that was the project, and it was organized directly by USAID. Women from different sectors took part. There were eleven women there. It lasted about two or three months. It was meant to prepare women leaders. After that, when I came back, I worked for a short time at the Ministry of Education, and then I went back to the faculty. That was it. I was not interested in leadership as much as in education. The second time, in 2006, I applied for a scholarship called the Fulbright scholarship, and they gave it to me for four months. I also went to America, to Johns Hopkins University. I completed a specialization there and returned.
Anita Susuri: What kind of specialization was it? Was it in your field, or…
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: Yes, in my field.
Anita Susuri: How did you notice, for example, the difference between the laboratories or conditions there and in America?
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: At first, we did not have a laboratory. At that time, we were trying to set up a laboratory, that was all. When we returned from Germany. It could not be compared. Besides, we were still a society emerging from war, especially in 2003 and 2006.
Anita Susuri: Ms. Milajete, thank you very much!
Milajete Shala Mehmeti: You’re welcome.