Part Two
Anita Susuri: And then you continued your studies in Zagreb after the Normale School. How did it happen that you went to Zagreb?
Muhamet Bicaj: Look, back then people went to Belgrade, here and there. But I didn’t want Belgrade, because my family had been sentenced in prisons, here and there. I went, I had a couple of Albanians in Croatia there who had some firms. I spoke with them and they said, “Come here.” So I went. Then I met Stipe Vesić, because the organizers of the demonstrations and all that sent me to Stipe Vesić. I told him, “Look,” I said, “my family were people who had been imprisoned in Serbian prisons and so on. I can’t enroll in Belgrade.”
I had enrolled and continued my studies for half a semester in Belgrade. I said, “I can’t,” I said, “I’m asking you to make it possible for me in Zagreb.” “No problem.” He called the rector and I enrolled. I enrolled in the dorms and everything in Zagreb. They assigned me a place and everything, and I continued my studies. Then I completed the master’s. I stood out tremendously there, I worked. They brought me a bed, a bed into the lab. I slept in the lab. Compared to others, it made a very strong impression on those professors.
There was a reaction, an experiment, that ran continuously for 24 hours. Twenty-four hours without interruption. I had to stay with it. Then they chose me immediately for the doctorate: “Come to me, come to me, come to me.” I chose the most well-known professor, Sulko, for my doctorate. The bed in the lab, me…
Anita Susuri: You studied chemistry?
Muhamet Bicaj: Chemistry, yes. Organic chemistry. Believe me, my chemistry reactions went down to -20 degrees, -24 degrees. That kind of thing, you had to stay there all night. I left an extremely, extremely big impression. I did my master’s and doctorate in Zagreb. The University of Zagreb, the oldest university in Europe, 450 years. The University of Zagreb. When I went to Germany, when they mentioned a doctorate and a master’s from Zagreb, what respect the Germans showed. I had extraordinary respect in Germany. But I wanted to be a patriot: “I won’t stay here, I want Kosovo, Kosovo, Kosovo, Kosovo.” Because they asked me there too, to work.
I worked a little, like this. For example, the chemistry, I wrote it… the 12th-grade chemistry I wrote, they took it. The Germans took my 12th-grade chemistry book, it’s exceptional, extremely strong. So I had this huge will to work, here and there, then being minister. Now, in the hardest times there were, those times, when pupils were displaced, when students were displaced into Albania and so on. These were extremely difficult times. And Albania helped me tremendously then.
Because at the University of Tirana, and professors from the Faculty of Medicine, I brought them to Kosovo. They had suffered a lot there. When they came to Kosovo, what a welcome we gave them, how we placed them, here and there, tremendously. And when the displacement of pupils happened into the mountainous areas of Albania, from Gjakova, for example, I went there. They welcomed me extremely well. I was very close with Fatos Nano, the prime minister at the time. Believe me, he organized… I also sent them, and I went myself through the northern parts of Albania.
Many, many students, some assistants, some professors in universities in northern Albania, I enrolled them in Kosovo. They welcomed me extraordinarily. Believe me, Fatos Nano called the minister and told him, “Anyone coming displaced from Kosovo, place them in primary schools and secondary schools, according to their level.” Believe me, I went and visited those villages, what respect they showed us. There were houses with two or three floors, two or three floors of Kosovars housed there. From northern Albania all the way south, everyone was housed. At that time universities opened their doors to students who had left. Primary and secondary schools as well. In that time I enrolled them in Albania, we were received extremely well, extremely well, and they completed. That was my activism in that time.
Anita Susuri: Yes, the ’90s.
Muhamet Bicaj: The ’90s.
Anita Susuri: Yes, yes, but I’m also interested in a bit earlier, when you graduated. Did you return from Zagreb? Did you become a doctor here, or…?
Muhamet Bicaj: No, first I was a professor, an assistant at the Faculty of Medicine, the Faculty of Dentistry, and in chemistry and agriculture, two or three faculties. But mainly the Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry, I taught chemistry and those subjects. Today they respect me a lot, extremely well. Back then the Faculty of Medicine and all that, there was an extraordinarily high level. For example, when I was vice-rector, I made Musa Haxhiu the dean of the Faculty of Medicine. And that Prelog in Switzerland told me, “Bicaj, you made the University of Belgrade feel inferior, especially with the Faculty of Medicine.” But I tell doctors now, “Be careful not to train a vice-rector, an academic, because that’s what Serbia wants.”
The Faculty of Medicine is not like it was before. Unfortunately it’s not at that level. It’s not at that level. Many students, many good students and doctors today are in Germany, all over the world, they left Kosovo and went there. Often… I have brothers there, “Bicaj? How are you, Prof Bicaj?” “Brother.” They support me a lot there because I placed them with scholarships and everything. So, as I said, they respected me. I was lucky that I had been in specialization with Merkel’s husband at the University of Moscow.
Anita Susuri: With Angela Merkel’s husband?
Muhamet Bicaj: With Angela Merkel’s husband. Because Zagreb sent me on specialization at the University of Moscow, the biggest university in the world. There I stood out from them a lot, I stood out a lot. Even materially and things, I stood out there a lot. Plus some professors who taught us there, English, American professors, who had also taught me in Zagreb. And I stood out there a lot. Believe me, when I went to Merkel, when I became minister of Albanian schools, the Serbian stamp was dominating. I took the stamp of the Republic of Kosovo and told them… as soon as her husband saw the request, Muhamet Bicaj, he asked, “Were you at the faculty in Moscow?”
They came running, the government secretary and Merkel. She says, “At this hour, Merkel will receive you.” And Ilaz says, “That fast? It hasn’t even been two hours,” and I said, “He saw ‘professor’.” It didn’t occur to me that her husband had said it. I went to Merkel, her first question: “Were you at the University of Moscow?” I said, “Yes.” “You were there with my husband.” I said, “You know there are many Albanians here, we have opened Albanian-language school courses in Germany. I see the stamp of the Republic of Serbia is dominating, but we have the stamp of the Republic of Kosovo. We are a republic now.” “Kein Problem.”
After a few days, half of the teachers, my students, “Minister, Prof, look what arrived: ‘Republic of Kosovo’, the stamp.” Meanwhile now I tell my brothers, “Merkel… good, now we sent him into retirement.” I opened Albanian schools there everywhere, here and there, tremendously. Great. Every time I went, they welcomed me extremely well.
Anita Susuri: I wanted to ask you also, as rector, these were the years ’85–’86, what problems did you face?
Muhamet Bicaj: Look, rector, under the Serbian structure, they made a Montenegrin, anti-Serb, who had fled Montenegro and come here, friend of Begraca, Bjekaj. Friend of the most well-known doctors in Kosovo, in Pristina. They needed the Serbian structure to come. When they did it, all the Albanians became… he, Bekë Racaj, was among the best doctors, the most authoritative. He says, “From these,” because a lot of chetnik-type candidates had applied, “Boša.” Because he had fled as an anti-Serb, a Montenegrin. They made Božidar Čolaković, and they made me vice-rector. Boža told me, “You just sign, Bicaj, let the rector and all that…” In reality I was the rector in that time, and he signed everything, because he was anti-Serb. The Serbs didn’t want him at all. What a revolution when Božidar Čolaković became rector. He was among the best and oldest doctors in Kosovo. We benefited a lot from having him as rector. In practice, he was just the signature, and I was the rector of the university. Very good. In that time the university was at a level. At a level. Very good.
Anita Susuri: And in ’89 when the student demonstrations started and the problems as well, how were those for you?
Muhamet Bicaj: Look… for me… those demonstrations had an anti-Serb effect, yes, but you have to be rational, not to lose things like that. They organized them, but I would tell them, “Go up to here, don’t go further.” So they were positive, positive at the right level. The Croats supported us, the Slovenes, half of Bosnia, the Bosniak part, the Montenegrins. I had a whole team. Back then, when it came to republic status, I went with the Croats and others. I talked. They accepted us.
Ibrahim Rugova at that time was at a level, at a level. Ibrahim listened to me a lot because he had been my father’s pupil and our villages were close. His wife, I even brought her into the Faculty of Philosophy, Rugova’s wife. It went well. Extremely well. The Croats, Slovenes, Montenegrins supported us… then I went to Hungary, Hungary and Vojvodina, and I convinced them, I told the Hungarians, “I ask you, convince the Hungarians there,” the Croats positioned themselves in that area, “to vote for Kosovo as a republic,” they organized. Except Serbia… Serbia was left alone. The Croats… when Serbia thought Bosnia and Montenegro would be with them, they didn’t vote for us, but they were convinced too, and Kosovo became a republic.
Adea Batusha: Mr Muhamet, we were focusing a bit on the period when you were minister. You mentioned you were in exile and had to carry out the duty from a distance. How did that work?
Muhamet Bicaj: It worked well, because I had the foundations there. I told you, I had Halim Hyseni, the Pedagogical Institute. All the municipal education secretaries we selected were people properly oriented that way. It functioned extremely well.
Adea Batusha: And how did contact happen? How did you coordinate?
Muhamet Bicaj: The contacts were through the embassy, they always came to me. I often went to Croatia, we met in Slovenia. They came to me, we met, yes.
Adea Batusha: And when did you return to Kosovo?
Muhamet Bicaj: I returned to Kosovo as soon as it became a republic. Now I can’t remember the exact date, honestly.
Adea Batusha: And this, for example… we’ve talked a lot about the house-schools and where primary and secondary schools were generally located. But I want to talk a bit about the university, how was higher education organized?
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, yes. Look, the house-schools… the house-school system was at an extraordinary level, extremely. We spoke with mayors, I spoke. We organized the most well-known houses that existed, patriotic houses, basically, but schools and municipalities. I allocated investments so their school expenses could be paid. Meaning every house that had a school received a sum of money, for electricity, water, and other expenses. So we selected the right people, the right patriotic houses. The school, the house-school became a very high level. Truly incredible idealism. We supported them financially, financially we supported them. Especially the houses, rather than the school, I gave the budget to the house itself.
Adea Batusha: For example, for UP, and since you know the Faculty of Medicine very well, how did those years function, since it’s quite hard to…
Muhamet Bicaj: Very hard, very hard, but we also made some clinics, well-known houses that were among the best, we made them into clinics. We worked at a level, we did.
Adea Batusha: What was it like? Were there resources? How could they…
Muhamet Bicaj: We financed it. I financed medicine specifically, documents, instruments, those special medicines that existed… we financed it specifically. There was a separate budget for medicine, a separate budget.
Adea Batusha: As minister at that time, what might be one of the most critical decisions you had to make then to keep education alive?
Muhamet Bicaj: Determination, not to be influenced by Serbia. Absolutely not to be influenced by Serbia. Total independence. That was it. That was it. Finances, look, the Albanian community helped a lot. Every house that served as a school, we financed it, every house. That house had no problem with heating, electricity, food expenses, nothing at all. We financed everything, by name. The house of Muhamet Bica, the house of this one, the house of that one, this much, this much, this much, financed. A special budget went to houses then, just like to municipalities. No, no, back then the idealism was incredible. The diaspora helped, Albanians helped a lot, they helped a lot.
Adea Batusha: And higher education continued the same way?
Muhamet Bicaj: The same, the same, higher education too, in certain houses. Yes, yes…
Adea Batusha: When you say “certain houses,” can you elaborate a bit more, what do you mean?
Muhamet Bicaj: Certain houses, houses that were more well-known, better organized, that had completely given themselves over, that were truly house-schools. We financed them. There were special houses for the university, for example, we financed exactly what was needed. Laboratories, expenses. Plus we organized practical sessions in Belgrade for students, and in Albania too, in Albania too. Albania, at that time, for doctors, I was there, I had the laboratory and the office for a long time… At the Faculty of Medicine we had brought some places to Albania because medicine accepted us. Fatos Nano, for example, helped tremendously.
Laboratories, for example, pharmacy, dentistry, medicine, because I was also a professor of medicine. We sent them there. Many professors from Albania’s medical university had been professors in Pristina, I had brought them. They helped tremendously. So much, so much, I’ll never forget. For example, the Chemistry Faculty of natural sciences that I had, friends here and there, basically the whole Faculty of Natural Sciences of Albania was also Kosovo’s, with labs and everything, everything.
Adea Batusha: Going back again to the part where they issued that arrest warrant for you, what exactly was the situation?
Muhamet Bicaj: I did have a warrant, but Germany, the West, protected me.
Adea Batusha: When was the warrant issued?
Muhamet Bicaj: The warrant, immediately in ’90. Immediately. Before ’90, a warrant, before ’90. They told me: that seminar we had in Belgrade, you know? The issue was that Croatia and Slovenia had applied with projects too. I organized with the Croats and Slovenes to support them there, and also that no curriculum for Kosovo drafted without the participation of Serbs, without the participation of Albanians, could exist. Where are they? Basement, basement, basement. The next day they immediately tell me I have a warrant.
Adea Batusha: And they arrested you too?
Muhamet Bicaj: No, I…
Adea Batusha: So nothing, basically.
Muhamet Bicaj: No, no. I fled quickly. In a day or two I fled. I had a sentence of 60 years in prison. Immediately I went to Skopje, got on a plane, and to Germany.
Adea Batusha: When you reflect on this part of the ’90s…
Muhamet Bicaj: My wife later told me, they went, because they didn’t think I was like that… they were following me, civilians came and stayed around the house to see if I would come out, until they found out… I had my house, my apartment in Banja of Peja. Until they found out, every day following. We had very good neighbors, organized. Following. Because there were Serbs there too. They assigned them to wander around. Until they understood I wasn’t there. They searched, they entered the house, they found documents… so, in exile, what can you do? My family suffered, my family suffered a lot because of them. A lot.
Anita Susuri: And when you mentioned you had political prisoners in the family, who was it?
Muhamet Bicaj: My grandfather and two uncles. They were in Goli Otok.
Anita Susuri: Before the war?
Muhamet Bicaj: Before the war, before the war. In Goli Otok. My grandfather was anti-Serb. He was connected with Shaban Polluzha, as I said, known. My grandfather and two brothers were imprisoned in Goli Otok. I never got a scholarship from Istog. Because “hostile.” Me, for example, my uncle’s son, another uncle’s son, we were at the faculty level, we never got scholarships. Absolutely none. We were always… and my father was among the first teachers in Kosovo.
For two or three years they didn’t accept him until people came from those villages of Mitrovica. From Mitrovica, where those schools didn’t have teachers, they called my father, and my father, in Mitrovica, in those schools, together with Halil Kajtazi, they were teachers there. In Vrellë, in Istog, they didn’t accept my father because he was an “enemy,” “hostile.” And he was among the first teachers in Kosovo.
Anita Susuri: Did you then have any problems personally because of that?
Muhamet Bicaj: Of course. I never had a scholarship at all.
Anita Susuri: Anything else, were you persecuted, or…
Muhamet Bicaj: No, they protected me, look, colleagues and that sort of thing respected me… still, the police and those ministries of internal affairs didn’t really do anything to me, but citizens and leaders respected me. Because my father was among the first teachers. Half of those leaders had been his pupils. My uncle was the first professor of Albanological Albanian language, you understand? Jusuf Gërvalla and those… so the villages loved us, only the state didn’t. They didn’t give me a scholarship. The municipality, for example, the municipal administration didn’t give me a scholarship because I was an “enemy.” That’s how we had it.
Anita Susuri: And to go back a bit again to the ’90s, we’ll return. During all that time, did you work abroad the whole time, or were there times you came to Kosovo?
Muhamet Bicaj: No, no, I wasn’t there until…
Anita Susuri: During the war as well, and after the war?
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, yes. For example, the main commander of the army, this one, what was his name, that Bicaj? He was from Bosnia, a commander in Bosnia, I brought him there. We, the army, the organization and all that, I mainly did, I helped a lot from abroad, with aid and things, tremendously. A lot. Because during the war and afterwards they supported me. After that I didn’t have danger.
Adea Batusha: Mr. Muhamet, in which places did you live during this period? Where were you?
Anita Susuri: In the West?
Adea Batusha: Because you didn’t stay in just one place, right?
Muhamet Bicaj: I was in Germany. Mainly I had… first I was in Croatia. Croatia supported me a lot, then the Slovenes. Mainly I was in Croatia, Slovenia, and then I went to Germany. The Albanian community called me because I had opened Albanian schools.
Adea Batusha: So during this period, the opening of Albanian schools happened in…
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, yes. Mainly there, mainly there.
Adea Batusha: What was your role in opening Albanian schools? What did you have to do?
Muhamet Bicaj: Decisions. Decisions as Minister of Education of the Republic of Kosovo. With decisions, and I also appointed the teachers. I remember Agim Ramadani, I was close with him, I visited him, he was a great hero in Switzerland. When I opened Albanian schools, I appointed teachers; his wife had been a teacher. I made her a teacher by decision. When she received the decision… imagine, the Swiss minister of education had been Albanian, from Croatia. When I went there, because I had to go through ministries, when she saw the name Prof Bicaj, she received me. I told her, “Albanian schools, plus we have the stamp,” because in some places the Serbian stamp, the old one, was being used. I said, “We are a republic, here is the stamp of Kosovo.” She said, “No problem.” I said, “These teachers I appointed,” I sent her the list, I said, “I ask you to…” “No problem.” She walked me out, because you couldn’t speak in the office. She said, “I’m Albanian too, Albanez from Croatia.” That part of Croatia has Albanian land along the coast there. And I appointed Agim’s wife as a teacher by decision. And with that decision, Agim got his residency in Switzerland, because without a decision, he couldn’t.
Later he opened a painting salon, and he would call me. I visited. I spent a lot of time there, here and there. Until he sent me word, he said, “Minister, tomorrow I’m leaving for Albania with Sali Çeku.” I had Sali Çeku in my office, what a guy he was. He had arranged documents for all Albanians, because he was a great administrator. With a stamp. He used to call me minister sometimes, sometimes prof. He said, “I went.” “Where?” “Agim and I went.” They went to Albania. Because during the war I was head of emergency…
Anita Susuri: Where?
Muhamet Bicaj: For Kosovar fighters. I secured crossings and so on, and northern Albania respected me a lot, a lot, a lot.
Anita Susuri: And you returned to Kosovo immediately after the war, in ’99?
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, after the war.
Anita Susuri: When?
Muhamet Bicaj: I forgot the date now, I don’t know, but I returned.
Anita Susuri: After it ended, basically?
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, yes, after it ended.
Anita Susuri: And then, it seems, you were also involved in drafting textbooks…
Muhamet Bicaj: Yes, yes. After that I was also head of the School Book (textbook) institution. Because I opened… the School Book played an extremely big role. Bajram Shatri, for example, had… an extremely big role. I became head of the group for drafting school textbooks. I organized everything, and I brought people from Albania too, for language, history, geography, and others. I myself, since I was chemistry. I opened the border for Albanian schools, everything possible. Then I organized authors from Albania together with Kosovars, whatever was possible, and so on. The School Book played a very big role because it opened everything through cooperation with Albania, with Albania’s books, with Kosovo’s books, and we filled the textbooks and distributed them across all of Kosovo.
Anita Susuri: Okay. Mr Muhamet, thank you very much!