Part One
Nenad Andrić: Can you tell us something about yourself, your family and about the place where you grew up?
Sinan Ramić: My name is Sinan Ramić, born in Čaglavica in the Ramić family. I lived there for 30 years, then I came to Plemetina where I lived in the workers’ barracks close to the power plant. There were workers’ barracks given by the municipality as an alternative accommodation. I had one room there where I lived with my wife and my children. I was married before I came to Plemetina. In 1991, in 1995 I left Čaglavica. I couldn’t live in Čaglavica anymore, we had a small house and the family was big, then I came and stayed with my in-laws here for two weeks until local Serbian representatives found for me some alternative accommodation and gave me one room in the workers barracks. Right after that, I started working for the local utility company and with it I worked in the powerplant. I was also a wage earner after my full time work. I worked in the fields of corn, we were taking our kids to the inlaws to take care of them and me and my wife were wage earners as well.
Nenad Andrić: How else would you describe your life before the war in Kosovo?
Sinan Ramić: Fino. In the beginning I had a family, I had my aunt and her children, I was visiting her before as well with my wife and children. Life as life, Roma at work, everyone is taking care of their lives, their homes, to provide food for their children. We didn’t have a fortune, we couldn’t be rich. Before, I was working at the powerplant plus I was a wage earner as well, enough to have for food. When I got a room at the barracks I didn’t have anything, it was an empty room. My mother-in-law gave us one mattress, two carpets, one blanket, two plates and three-four spoons, that’s all I had.
Later my boss at work lent me a truck so I could go back to Čaglavica and get my things from my family house, some beds, some duvets, some more dishes. It was one room only and it was in the barracks. I didn’t have other possibilities, for example, to build a house, at that time it was hard, now it’s easy to build a house. Now I can take out a loan and build a house and before I couldn’t do it. You would need three or four years to build a house. I also couldn’t buy land where to build a house. Salaries were small, we stayed in barracks because of that.
Nenad Andrić: Can you tell us some of your childhood memories?
Sinan Ramić: There are many. As a youngster I was friends with everyone, especially in Čaglavica. There were not many Roma there, they were mostly Serbs. At the entrance of Čaglavica there were few Albanian houses and I maintained contact with them. As a youngster I would go to many local dances, the ones that knew me knew I was Roma, the ones that didn’t know me could never tell that I am Roma. I speak perfect Serbian, and my Serbian friends would not call me Sinan but would give me different Serbian names like Siniša or Dragiša. Girls didn’t know that I’m Roma. I was a poor child, only my father worked and we were numerous in our family. In primary school I had all A grades from grade one to grade eight. I started high school, a technical vocational school in Pristina. And because of lack of finances after six months I dropped out.
I needed the money to pay for the bus ticket, to eat, buy clothes and we just didn’t have any. My school friends from Čaglavica helped me but couldn’t do it all the time. We would still go out together to the local dances and there no one could tell that I’m Roma. On one occasion, at one of the local dances, we were talking with some girls and to one of them I said that I’m Roma, she didn’t believe me. My friend was with me, now an old friend that I talk to and even today, he is a Serb, I tell him, “Branko, come here.” I talked with him in Romani language, the girl was surprised and there I asked her who she thinks is Roma, my friend Branko or me, she couldn’t tell. I was Roma. While I was single I was going out a lot, to weddings. There is not a place in Kosovo where I have not been to a wedding, Gjilan, Prizren, Mitrovica, Vushtrri, Janjevo, Lipjan, Pristina… I don’t need to mention Gračanica, it was close to my home, I had uncles and aunts there, even my sister was married there, big family.
Nenad Andrić: I heard a story that you worked as a waiter at the Grand Hotel in Pristina, is that true?
Sinan Ramić: No, it was my brother who was a waiter in the Grand Hotel. I was working in a local bar in Čaglavica. There I first got a job as a stoker, maintaining the fire for the central heating system. After some time I got promoted to barman and from the bar I was promoted to waiter. I have been in that world for almost five years. It was from 1985 to 1990.
Nenad Andrić: How was that job of yours, did you like it?
Sinan Ramić: It was a local bar and as a waiter I got a lot of tips, and as waiters we had to trick people a little bit as well. That bar had live music every night, and I had my regular customers, I wouldn’t trick them about the price, they would tip me greatly. It was hard work. At night you could walk the streets freely and not be afraid of anything or anyone. I was working in a bar, my brother was working in Pristina in a hotel, and my dad was working in construction. We had a simple, poor life. We were poor but honest. All the village knew us as Bajram’s children, poor but honest.
We would work for wages in the village for a Serbian family. That Serbian man would always call my father “in-law” since both his wife and my mother were from Gračanica and lived in the same street, and he would hire us to do work around his garden, he would leave us the key to the house while he and his wife were at work. His wife would leave us the food inside the house and would tell us when we get hungry to get inside the house and eat. They would ask why I wouldn’t eat, I told them, “Out of respect for your house.” We were poor but honest. Something that even today you can see.
Here I worked as a wage earner for Serbs here too, they are very satisfied with me. I did handle myself a lot of their money in my work for them, never did they miss a single cent. They would task me to go and get supplies for their stores, and [I traveled] with a lot of money with me, at the time by train, up to four thousand euros of their money. I would visit many companies, buy the supplies and even help others who did the same. They never lacked anything, even to this day, some Serbs from here, I still work at their shops, they let me take care of their tractors, of their houses.
Nenad Andrić: How did Roma and non-Roma lived together right after the war, how was the relationship between all?
Sinan Ramić: At the beginning, right after the war, Serbs and Roma were here together and were good to each other while Albanians were not. Why? Because right after the war, after they came back you couldn’t go out and walk freely and you didn’t know from where bullets could come from. Roma and Serbs were together, we would gather all together, if there were issues with Serbs, Roma would help, if Roma had problems Serbs would help, the whole village would gather, to protect the Roma.
With Albanians we didn’t have much contact after the war, why? Maybe because some of them lost their father, mother, sister and that was disappointing to them. Now we live like there was no war, we go freely to Obiliċ and to Pristina, we buy our food there and we work there. There are people who work in Albanian organizations, there are Roma that work there too. There are a lot of our children who work in Lipjan in the Viva Fresh market. They have organized transport, their salary is 450-500 euros.
It’s much different than in 1999. Up to 2003 or 2004 it was not that good, we still would go to Obilić, but how? if you had a friend who had a car. If you couldn’t talk, they would say, “Look, here is the magjup.” Today we freely go to Obilić, to the shops, we eat in restaurants, we buy supplies, and buy cheaper there. They [Albanians] sell us wood and coal for the winter. If you have the money you can buy food and wood.They also sell us firewood on credit or in installments.
Nenad Andrić: What celebrations, traditions and customs were important to you and your family? Are there any differences in celebrations before the war and now?
Sinan Ramić: Yes, before the war, we had as its known, Ederlezi, which is the Roma’s biggest holiday. Vasi too. Vasi is in the winter, people would stay inside but most of the Roma people would celebrate it. Christmas too, we would celebrate all the holidays. But for Ederlezi, we would dress up more nicely, we would buy a few lambs, drinks, and we would go to the river to get the willow branches. We would decorate our house with willow branches, we would stay awake all night, every house had a good radio, we would play loud festive music all night. In the morning, the wife would get up early and give a bath to the children with those willow branches. The husband, as the head of the family, would take a bath first, he would then slaughter the lambs, would call someone to help if he needed it, sometimes would go to others to help in that ritual. That tradition was kept by the Roma a bit after the war and then slowly they started not to celebrate Ederlezi and Vasi and all.
Nenad Andrić: Why is that?
Sinan Ramić: Many of the Roma people have returned to Islam. Islam says it’s haram to celebrate Ederlezi, Vasi and other holidays, it’s known that we should celebrate only Islamic holidays, such as Ramadan’s Bajram and Kurban Bajram. There are still Roma people that do celebrate Ederlezi.
Nenad Andrić: You mentioned that music was also a big part of Roma tradition, and as I know you are also a musician, you play tarabuka/darbuka? You were also part of the local cultural artistic society?
Sinan Ramić: Yes, Miloš Obilić is the name, the Serbian one. I joined randomly. Nobody knew how to play tarabuka. No one knew how to play tarabuka, I have played before and not much, but my brother did, he did play drums and tarabuka. Why? I was not interested in it. But here I went, my director asked me. Folk music was played in school, I was invited to help and clean the floors after the rehearsal. I was there once, two times, three… The rhythm went inside my head. I asked the choreographer if I could play as well. He asked me, “What?” “Tarabuka,” I said. He asked me to get it and join. I didn’t have [the instrument] back then. I told him I’ll find it. “Tomorrow is the next rehearsal,” he said, “and you will play.”
Since I didn’t have it, what should I do? Where should I get the tarabuka? I went to another Roma here, to Hamit and asked him if he had tarabuka, he said, “Yes.” So, I took it for one rehearsal only. After three rehearsals I went to a concert in Velika Hoća. Even then I didn’t have tarabuka. I went to Faton [another neighbor] and took his tarabuka. My director already called him and told him to lend me his tarabuka until we find one for myself. When we went to Velika Hoća, it was my first time there. We played and we did well and when I came back, I gave back the tarabuka to Faton. Soon after I went to my brother in Gračanica, he had our uncle’s tarabuka, I explained to him and he gave it to me. I still have it here. I played folk music, we had concerts here in Plemetina, Gračanica…
Nenad Andrić: Have you been to any other places outside of here?
Sinan Ramić: I was, we were. I was in Jagodina, Kruševac, Kopaonik, I was in Belgrade at the show “Žikina Šarenica”, that same day we were in Obrenovac as well, there were some folk concerts there too. Next morning we were at Pink television, at the Neša Ristić, where I played too. I was also in the Republika Srpska [Bosnia Herzegovina], where we stayed for four to five days as we played. There at the time was a voluntary blood donation campaign. There I gave blood and I was rewarded with a golden plaque and a medal.
Nenad Andrić: For how many donations you get rewarded with a golden plaque, 50?
Sinan Ramić: They awarded me because I came from Kosovo, since we were there with folklore, they honored me like that.
Nenad Andrić: Did they know how many blood donations have you done previously?
Sinan Ramić: Until then I had donated blood 60 times.
Nenad Andrić: The golden plaque is awarded for 50 donations?
Sinan Ramić: No, 100.
Nenad Andrić: How did you get it with 60 then?
Sinan Ramić: There, in Republika Srpska, in Bosnia, in gratitude.
Nenad Andrić: So till now, how many times have you donated blood, 60 or more?
Sinan Ramić: Until today, I donated blood 120 times.
Nenad Andrić: Mashallah, mashallah. How did you come to the point of donating blood?
Sinan Ramić: That’s a sad story. A very sad story.
Nenad Andrić: Can you tell us the story?
Sinan Ramić: Sure. My sister was very ill, nobody wanted to donate blood for her. She was in hospital in Niš. That was 1991, 1992. I lied to you, the first time I gave blood 1986, then actively from 1993. There was a case of my uncle’s daughter, she passed away. When I was in the army, she suffered from leukemia. I was in the army, everyone donated blood for her but we couldn’t save her.
I was in the army when a telegram came for me. I was serving in Ljubljana. My commanding officer was also from Čaglavica. He came out and was looking at me, he said “Ramić.” I said, “Yes sir?” “Prepare yourself,” he said. I said, “How? I don’t have money for travel, nobody sent me any.” He said, “Don’t worry about the money but prepare yourself.” At that moment, I thought that my father had died. I thought so. He worked in construction [and I thought], he got drunk and fell off the construction site. I asked my officer, “Did my father die?” He said “No, go and prepare yourself, you have to go home.” I was stunned, I had no money. My friends there heard that I had no money, the officer told them, until I changed into my city clothing, my friends had collected money for me. I asked my officer again, “What is it? Is it something about my father?” He said “No, your father is fine, but you need to go home.”
I got ready, took the money collected for me, and he gave me an eight day leave. I went to the station to buy a ticket, but it’s Ljubljana. At 15:30 I had a train, I remember it like it was yesterday, at 08:00 the next morning I was in Kosovo Polje. Soldiers then didn’t pay the urban bus tickets, so I came to Pristina. From Pristina to Gračanica I had a bus at 10:30, but I couldn’t wait at the time. I got home. I saw my father alive, I asked them, “What happened?” My uncle’s son came and told me what had happened. He said “Djuka is sick, we need blood for her, that’s why we sent you a telegram.”
I didn’t take my uniform off, back then we were free, while Yugoslavia was one in 1986. I went to Skopje. I went to the hospital and her life was hanging by a thread by that time. Nurses started a direct blood transfusion from me to her, the doctor was looking at me, and I was dressed as a soldier. Blood was flowing slowly and I was there for an hour, with a needle in my vein. The doctor was sitting beside me, while measuring my blood pressure, pulse… Kept that going until she opened her eyes. She was awake for 10 minutes, they took out the needle from me and I was pale as a ghost. My uncle’s son, who was there with me, had a lot of money, he was doing fine. He was a construction worker, had been working in Libya for three years, and had all the money in the world. He asked me if I needed anything, if I wanted to eat something. I told him to get me some food, some red wine and a jar of pickled beets.
From 1993 I started donating blood actively. My sister was on her death bed. I went to Niš and there I wanted to beat up some doctors. To take them to court. Why? They were wondering how come my surname was Ramić and hers was Selimović. I told them it was her husband’s surname. They asked me for her birth certificate with her maiden surname. “Where can I find that?” I asked them, “ She is married to her husband. I’m Ramić, she is Selimović, she is my sister. The second doctor that came along let me donate blood, but still was asking for a birth certificate. They seemed blind that they couldn’t see how much we look alike. That is how I started donating blood, when I saw the injustice that happens, not just toward my sister, but towards everyone.
From 1993, I was working in Prishtina in a company, Yugoplastika. It produced the plastic parts for the Yugo car. Open calls for donations were regular, so I gave [blood] for the first time. After that I was regularly going to the transfusion fund to donate blood. And so once you start and get used to it you cannot stop it. For 32 years now, actively. Every three to four months. Here at the Red Cross I also received two medals, plaques, for the 35th time, then for the 75th time. Now in November or December, I forgot when they told me, there will be people from Belgrade coming from the Red Cross and I should get an award. Most likely it will be financial. For 120 times, in the municipality of Obilić no one donated blood more than me.
Can I have a cigarette?